Oops!

Oops!

Written by:ModemMisuser
Published on October 7th, 2009 @ 07:26:08 am , using 417 words, 1133 views
Posted in Atheism/Skepticism

My friend Chad had read yesterday's post on Atheism/etc and we were chatting about it, when he said there was something he'd always wanted to ask an Atheist. So I said "sure, go ahead!" and his question was (and I'm paraphrasing...)

So, ok, hypothetically, what if it happens, when you finally die, it ends up that there is some God/spiritual realm/whatever - what would you say?

To which I could only respond,

Oops.

Heh. See, though, that's the beauty of following The Scientific Method! You don't get emotionally/egotistically attached to an idea or theory or hypothesis. When you receive new evidence that contradicts what you believe, you simply adapt your thinking. No big deal.

I of course went on to point out that while, yes, if I die, and then am suddenly in front of some God, I wouldn't sit there and try to deny his/her existence as that would be stupid. I deny the existence of a God because there's no evidence to support the belief in one. Standing in front of one would be evidence. And, I think, after thousands of years of human history with countless millions of people trying to prove existence of Gods and other spiritual beings, and completely failing, that it's safe to say that it isn't likely that any exist.

Humans are hard-wired to assign "supernatural" origins to things they simply don't currently understand. In the way distant past, humans didn't understand a damn thing, so they made up Gods for everything. The Sun, the Moon, fire - you name it. But now the Sun is very much understood, and so you don't see many/any people worshiping a Sun God anymore. As humans came to understand more and more things, there became less and less Gods and Demons. Mental illness used to be thought to be caused by Demons or the Devil; now we understand it's mainly just chemical imbalances in the brain. The list goes on. But yet many humans still hang onto the idea of a God, because we're hard-wired to.

There is still that "what if?" barrier for some people. "What if I choose Atheism and I'm wrong?" Well, ok, sure, that would suck. But, look at the evidence. It's more likely, far more likely in fact, that there are no Gods, than that there are. You should instead ask yourself, "What if I waste my entire life, worrying about, stressing about, and basically agonizing over, some invisible, non-communicative, vengeful, Sky-bully, and it ends up that he/she doesn't exist?"

4 comments

Comment from: Mykky [Visitor]
MykkyThe thing is... based on my concept of god you can't anymore *prove* she doesn't exist than you can *prove* that he does. Alan Watts (60s or 70s type philosopher) used to say about defining god's qualities - if you can name it, that's *not* it. And one of the Jewish theologians I read also said something to the effect that you can only say what god is *not*. Because as soon as you say what god *is* it is of necessity limiting (words are limiting by definition) and if it is *truly* god it has *no* limits. Anyway, I would say, you can't prove it, but you can *believe* it and you can *know* it. I don't do belief, so I know, but as I said that's personal and my knowing only works for me. So I'm willing to talk about it, just in the way of "this is a different way of looking at it" but not in the way of trying to change your (or anyone's) mind.

And as far as the "vengeful, Sky-bully" ... well if that was my concept of god, I would likely go for the opposite too. Happily it isn't. -) And I don't worry, stress or agonize... I celebrate! I'll also point out that you concept of god is extremely Christian - no offense.
10/09/09 @ 10:20
Comment from: ModemMisuser [Member] Email
ModemMisuserIt is extremely Christian, yes - after all "Christian Nation!!!" and all. It's the prevailing religion here in our country. :/
10/09/09 @ 10:23
Comment from: Mykky [Visitor]
MykkyUSA is a Christian Nation, but *worldview* wise, not the only way of approaching who/what god is or is not, and what god wants from us.

When I was a freshman in college, I thought about this whole god thing a *lot* which I suspect is one of the other freshman diseases, like mono and the freshman 15. Anyway, my conclusion was that lots of much smarter people than me had also thought about it a lot, and none of them had really come up with the definitive /
proof/answer to the question of the existence/non-existence of god. So I very much doubted that I would be the one to figure it out. But it seemed to me then (and now) that if you did the most good and the least harm that you could in your life, that that was as much as god (if s/he exists) could really expect of you. And if god does not exist, it still isn't a bad way to live your life, so it came out to the same thing in the end. And I *was* right about one thing: I haven't been the one to figure out the proof of the existence/non-existence of god. -)
10/10/09 @ 16:26
Comment from: ModemMisuser [Member] Email
ModemMisuserI agree with that basic sentiment - if there IS any god at all, and he/she isn't, to paraphrase, a complete dick/bitch, and you lived your life just trying to do good... but didn't believe in the "right" god... they wouldn't sent you to their version of hell. Only a purely evil being would do that.
10/12/09 @ 05:36

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